Swallowing Your Husband's Load Helps Prevent Pre-eclampsia And Miscarriage and Maybe Immune Rejection-ba
sed Infertilty | conceptualclarity's Blog
Neither the Bible nor legal and customary conjugal rights require that a woman suck her husband's penis much less swallow his semen. But if she's thinking about making babies she might want to give it some consideration.
Wednesday, 6 February, 2002, 23:58 GMT
Sex 'primes woman for sperm'
Regular sex with the same man may prime a woman's immune system not to reject his sperm when they try to conceive, scientists suggest.
The theory could partly explain why humans have sex even when they aren't trying for a baby.
Even a year before conception, exposure to sperm, either through intercourse or other sex acts, can have protective effects against problems ranging from infertility to miscarriages and high blood pressure during pregnancy.
Researchers from the University of Adelaide in South Australia say previous studies have suggested it could also guard against the life-threatening condition pre-eclampsia - where the mother's body rejects the placenta.All these problems could to be linked to a failure of the mother's immune system to accept the foetus and placenta which both contain "foreign" proteins from the father's genes.
If the placenta, which supplies oxygen and nutrients from the mother's blood to the foetus, is damaged it can result in a baby that is underweight or stillborn.
The process of accepting foreign cells is called immune modulation.
After intercourse, a woman's immune system sends cells to the cervix to collect the father's foreign proteins to take back to the lymph nodes so that other immune cells can recognise them.
The Adelaide team suggests semen contains an agent which prompts the woman's immune system to accept it.
Sometimes, this process fails and women can have a severe immune response, which could be as serious as anaphylactic shock.
The agent is transforming growth factor TGF-beta.
Studies in mice showed TGF-beta switches what would usually be a hostile reaction to "foreign" sperm from the immune cells into a friendly one.
Gustaaf Dekker, one of the Adelaide researchers, said: "If there's repeated exposure to that signal then eventually when the woman conceives, her [immune] cells will say, 'we know that guy, he's been around a long time, we'll allow the pregnancy to continue.'"
He added: "We see patients that have two miscarriages, then they finally manage to get through their miscarriage period, and they have pre-eclampsia, or the placenta detaches and they have a stillbirth at 24 weeks."
Future treatment hopes
Dr Dekker also examined the impact of other sex acts on the immune system while working at the Free University of Amsterdam.
He looked at 41 pregnant women with pre-eclampsia and 44 without and found 82% of those without pre-eclampsia practised other sex acts compared with only 44% of those with the disorder.
But other doctors suggest the first group were likely to be having more sex overall.
The Adelaide team are now looking to see if men who have fathered pregnancies which have ended in miscarriages or pre-eclampsia had low TGF-beta levels in their semen.
If the theory is confirmed, women who suffer repeated miscarriages or IVF failures could be given TGF-beta along with the father's foreign proteins, possibly in a vaginal gel during intercourse
The Adelaide team even suggest understanding how a woman's immune system tolerates a foetus for nine months could lead the way to advances in the treatment of autoimmune diseases such as lupus and multiple sclerosis.
But Dr Gulam Bahadur, a consultant clinical scientist in the department of obstetrics and gynaecology at the Royal Free and University College Medical School, told BBC News Online: "The content is interesting and makes attractive reading.
"But from the scientific viewpoint one has to err on the side of caution in interpreting the many diverse and speculative points, simply because there are insufficient controls or appropriately thought out studies."
The research is published in New Scientist.http://teresastrasser.com/blog/2009/06/news-about-pregnancy-that-doesnt-suck-but-suggests-that-you-do/
News About Pregnancy That Doesn’t Suck, But Suggests That You Do
If you’re thinking about conceiving, or certainly if you are already pregnant, there is some pretty convincing evidence that instead of just swallowing, say, folic acid, you might want to swallow something else.
Let me be delicate about this, if I can.
As far as I can tell, not only should you be having lots of oral sex with the father of your baby – even up to a year before conceiving – you should also make sure to ingest his seminal fluid. Listen to what I’m telling you: the international medical community is giving you an Rx for oral. Sure, they say frequent intercourse is good, too, but oral is better. So, if you care about having a healthy baby and not potentially unleashing what scientists call a “destructive attack on the foreign tissues” of your fetus, if you want to avoid immunological disorders during pregnancy, and I’m sure you do, get to work. Or to pleasure, depends how you feel about it.
Basically, the research says you need to be able to tolerate your baby’s foreign, paternal DNA, need to get your body accustomed to the stuff, need to cozy up to some daddy double helix for awhile so your body doesn’t reject it.
I’m no doctor, just a pregnant lady with Google, so maybe I’m horribly confused, but here is what I found excerpted online, from the Journal of Reproductive Immunology.
“While any exposure to a partner’s semen during sexual activity appears to decrease a woman’s chances for the various immunological disorders that can occur during pregnancy, immunological tolerance could be most quickly established through oral introduction and gastrointestinal absorption of semen.”
I could not make this up. Gastrointestinal absorption of semen. I know. For the man in your life, this news should not be hard to swallow. Sorry.
According to a group of Dutch researchers, “exposure to semen provides protection against developing preeclampsia.” That’s from a paper with the catchy title, “Immune Maladaptation in the Etiology of Preeclampsia: a Review of Corroborative Epidemiologic Studies.” Or you could use the subtitle: “Semen is Your Friend.”
I just can’t figure out why the whole “blue balls” thing has gotten so much traction with men, but they haven’t gotten a hold of this medical morsel.
One of my favorite pregnancy hobbies is obsessively researching dangerous pregnancy related conditions. I know, I know, I could knit, but that would be relaxing, whereas this is more congruent with my other pastimes, which include worrying about the future and raking over the past. That’s how I happened to look up preeclampsia, specifically because I interviewed actress Jane Seymour and she said she got it during one of her pregnancies, and I figured I needed a new worry charm for my shiny bracelet of maternal concerns.
First, I found this desc
“Preeclampsia is a condition of pregnancy marked by high blood pressure and excess protein in your urine after 20 weeks of pregnancy.”
This merited a trip to Wikipedia, where I found all sorts of links to academic papers on the subject and buried therein, the dryly worded but unmistakable information about oral.
After I did some digesting about ingesting, I had to stand up from my desk chair and say to no one in particular, “Really?” If I’ve heard about a new mother eating her own placenta in a panini, if I’ve scoured sights like this for every possible detail about pregnancy, how have I missed this gem? Some of the studies I read weren’t all that new, but you’d think they would have made a bigger and more long-lasting splash.
Maybe penises need a new publicist.
Now, to be fair, the Dutch researchers do warn that with a new partner, condoms should be used to prevent sexually transmitted diseases, “However, a certain period of sperm exposure within a stable relation, when pregnancy is aimed for, is associated with a partial protection against preeclampsia,” they insist.
As far as I can tell, there seem to be myriad causes of preeclampsia and similar conditions, and it’s too complicated a medical issue for anyone, least of all me, to fully understand. Still, while some of these hypotheses have been challenged, they don’t seem to have been debunked. So to conclude, I will fall back on the medical opinion I always have about things that are either Suzanne Somers-y or reeking of placebo-ness, but obviously benign: It can’t hurt, right? At the very least, your baby will have a happy, relaxed father and parents who are intimate.
And suddenly, you wonder if the phrase “going Dutch” might acquire new meaning.
The involvement of immune mechanisms in the aetiology of preeclampsia is often suggested. Normal pregnancy is thought to be associated with a state of tolerance to the foreign antigens of the fetus, whereas in preeclamptic women this immunological tolerance might be hampered. The present study shows that oral sex and swallowing sperm is correlated with a diminished occurrence of preeclampsia which fits in the existing idea that a paternal factor is involved in the occurrence of preeclampsia. Because pregnancy has many similarities with transplantation, we hypothesize that induction of allogeneic tolerance to the paternal HLA molecules of the fetus may be crucial. Recent data suggest that exposure, and especially oral exposure to soluble HLA (sHLA) or HLA derived peptides can lead to transplantation tolerance. Similarly, sHLA antigens, that are present in the seminal plasma, might cause tolerance in the mother to paternal antigens. In order to test whether this indeed may be the case, we investigated whether sHLA antigens are present in seminal plasma. Using a specific ELISA we detected sHLA class I molecules in seminal plasma. The level varied between individuals and was related to the level in plasma. Further studies showed that these sHLA class I molecules included classical HLA class I alleles, such as sHLA-A2, -B7, -B51, -B35 and sHLA-A9. Preliminary data show lower levels of sHLA in seminal plasma in the preeclampsia group, although not significantly different from the control group. An extension of the present study is necessary to verify this hypothesis.
There's no danger to your baby from the semen itself. As long as you're in a monogamous relationship and know that your partner is free of sexually transmitted infections (STIs), there's no risk.
If your partner is HIV-positive, it's not safe because the virus is present in semen, and you and your baby could become infected if you swallow it.
Deborah Ehrenthal ob-gyn
Yes. But remember that semen is a way to spread HIV, so you would need to be sure that your partner is free of HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases. If you're not sure, then you'll need to use a condom or avoid oral sex.
posted 7/01/2008 by a BabyCenter Member
4 out of 4 found this comment helpful
Oh ladies, swallowing my husband's semen is great! As a matter of fact, he tastes even better since I've been pregnant. I absolutely love every aspect of giving him oral sex and getting all of the benefits of it pregnant or not! Clearly, swallowing his semen is not killing children. Duh, if you're already pregnant, what child is going to be formed? Common sense ladies. So, swallow up!!! It taste great. Look at his face when you do it, if that doesnt turn you on, I don't know what else will!
posted 5/06/2009 by a BabyCenter Member
5 out of 7 found this comment helpful
I swallow, and I don't see anything wrong with it. To me it actually turns me on when I can actually make him feel that good. It's not like during sex, where he can take control with a different position. It gives me a sense of power and makes me want to do it more! And when you are in that moment you will do what makes you and your partner happy. To each thier own. I can understand if women don't feel comfortable with it, and know what women feel who do enjoy it.
posted 5/05/2009 by a BabyCenter Member
3 out of 3 found this comment helpful
Conceptualclarity : Many women have said that changing their husband's diet in a healthier direction made his semen more agreeable. Many wives say pineapple juice does wonders for semen taste. Makes sense since pineapple juice is one of the tastiest beverages on earth. I wonder why it's not stocked more. There are powders online sold expressly for the purpose of making semen and vaginal secretions taste better.
If you try everything and can never overcome displeasing taste, swallowing will be counterproductive. But if the taste is no worse than indifferent, I would urge fellating wives to swallow. If you are actively sucking on him as he orgasms, it will greatly intensify the orgasm. Then looking at him and smiling as you swallow his load is something many men find so titillating they say "If you find a gal who does that , she's a keeper." Well, I do advise you to rate character above willingness to swallow in your calculations, men. But you understand the point, ladies.
Previous PostsWho is "cuhntrunner"?, posted January 9th, 2013, 10 comments
Oh, Some Of The E-Mails I Get..., posted April 11th, 2012, 2 comments
Typical Scientific Sex Survey Of Female Intercourse ******, Demolishing The Myth Of "70-75% Of Women Never ****** During Intercourse", posted February 7th, 2012, 6 comments
What A Lot Of Women Want From Men Sexually, posted February 6th, 2012, 9 comments
EP Should Imitate Google In This Respect, posted January 30th, 2012, 11 comments
Some Notable Facts About The Islamic World, posted December 23rd, 2011
Dennis Prager On Thomas Friedman As An Example Of The Sickness Of Progressivism, posted December 20th, 2011
Walter Williams Gives An Accurate Picture Of Poverty In America, posted December 11th, 2011, 4 comments
Depressed People Are Low In Folate (Folic Acid), posted December 7th, 2011
DHA From Fish Oil Opposes Depression, Dementia, Dyslexia, And Even Clumsiness, posted December 6th, 2011
Don't Like The Way U S College Sports Are Going, posted December 2nd, 2011
To Have Good Intercourse Wives Need Frequent Intercourse, posted October 25th, 2011, 4 comments
Nancy Friday On The Feminists And Sex, posted October 22nd, 2011, 6 comments
More On The Myth Of The Pay Gap, posted October 22nd, 2011, 4 comments
Nature Is Resilient, Not Exquisitely Fragile, posted October 19th, 2011, 1 comment
Harsher Judging Of Promiscuous Women Is A Female Thing, posted October 12th, 2011, 10 comments
Promiscuous Oral Sex Strongly Linked To Cancer, posted October 11th, 2011
Another Refutation Of "All Men Are Cheaters", posted September 28th, 2011, 2 comments
Marriage And Coitus (Penis-Vagina Intercourse), posted September 26th, 2011, 1 comment
Choline, A Valuable Nutrient That Should Be Classified as a Vitamin, posted September 22nd, 2011
"No Labels"--Ha, ha, posted September 21st, 2011
To Be Healthy, Mate Regularly With Your Mate, posted September 17th, 2011, 4 comments
A Touch From The Lord, posted September 16th, 2011, 4 comments
Time To Bury The Obsolete Claim That all Female ******* Are Clitoral, posted September 2nd, 2011, 10 comments
Fish Oil Protects Against Stroke Damage In Animal Study, posted August 30th, 2011
A Sad Day, posted August 21st, 2011
Wow, Did You Know This About The Norway Labor Party Youth Camp?, posted August 10th, 2011, 7 comments
The Latest On My Physical Health, posted August 9th, 2011, 4 comments
Worsening Insomnia, posted July 27th, 2011, 13 comments
Mike Adams On The Obama Administration's Outrageous Sponsorship Of Unconstitutional Bias Against Male Defendants, posted July 23rd, 2011
My Struggles Since The Right Shoulder Dislocation, posted July 21st, 2011, 4 comments
The Arguments For Abortion On Demand Refuted By Mike Adams, posted July 19th, 2011, 2 comments
Swallowing Your Husband's Load Helps Prevent Pre-eclampsia And Miscarriage and Maybe Immune Rejection-based Infertilty, posted July 13th, 2011, 8 comments
Rather Than Bothering Them, Bonking Is Now Thought To Make Babies Jolly, posted July 13th, 2011
Are Wives Really More Faithful?, posted July 1st, 2011
Liberating My Ears, posted June 27th, 2011, 3 comments
Why Does Obama Want To Remake America In The Image Of Western Europe?, posted June 20th, 2011, 3 comments
More Information On The Effort To Misuse Policies Against Bullying In U.S. Schools, posted May 27th, 2011
Serious Issue Of Bullying Hijacked For A Political Agenda--Please Act Now, posted May 27th, 2011
Walter E. Williams On "Minimum Wage's Discriminatory Effects", posted May 21st, 2011, 1 comment
Jonah Goldberg On "Why the Hurry to Gloat About Bin Laden?", posted May 19th, 2011
Gingrich Candidacy Self-Destructs Just Past The Starting Gate, posted May 19th, 2011, 2 comments
Carrie Lukas On The Myth Of The Pay Gap, posted May 14th, 2011, 1 comment
Alternative Medicine Including For Cancer Tonight On Coast To Coast AM, posted May 11th, 2011, 1 comment
Michael Barone On The Rise Of The Red States And The Decline Of The Blue states, posted May 4th, 2011
My Latest Injury, posted April 13th, 2011, 4 comments
Two Major Defections Rock Gadaffi Regime, posted April 2nd, 2011
Omega-3 fatty acids EPA and DHA protect against the development of obesity-related disease, posted April 1st, 2011
A Piece Of Good News For A Change, posted March 31st, 2011
Thomas Sowell On The Decline Of Progressive "Blue" States In The US, posted March 31st, 2011, 3 comments
BlogrollHere are some friends' blogs...
HelpEmbed Photos Embed Videos